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test. >>> in the fiscal battle with democrats and the obama white house. first read then asks, what does a smart poker player usually do when holding a bad hand? you fold to live another day. nbc news senior political editor mark murray, a gambler as i hear. you're a texan. we all gamble. what would be the next logical hand? because it seems today a lot of republicans are saying let's get the bush tax cut issue dealt with and then wait until next year and would that be something that the democrats and the president would embrace? >> well, this is all about gaining maximum leverage and the better leverage of republicans right now to delay the bigger battle in to february when the debt ceiling would have to be increased. as youç mentioned, essentially acquiesing to the democrats and the white house for those making $250,000 and less and let's have the bigger battle when it comes to raising the debt ceiling. president obama essentially today said he's not willing to play that game. noting what happened in 2011 with the u.s. hurting its credit rating, just t
test. >>> in the fiscal battle with democrats and the obama white house. first read then asks, what does a smart poker player usually do when holding a bad hand? you fold to live another day. nbc news senior political editor mark murray, a gambler as i hear. you're a texan. we all gamble. what would be the next logical hand? because it seems today a lot of republicans are saying let's get the bush tax cut issue dealt with and then wait until next year and would that be something that...
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president obama now thinks he has the upper hand. according to the "washington post's" ezra klein, quote -- >> joining us now representative chris van hollen of maryland, ranking member of the house budget committee. great to have you on the program. >> great to be with you, alex. >> let's talk a little bit about 2011 versus 2012, which is to say, the republican party is a very different negotiating position than they were last year and as ezra outlines, it sounds like john boehner would probably readily accept the deal he had at one point with the president if it were happening today. >> well, a couple things. the exact revenue level that the president was pushing for back in 2011, was subject to some dispute. the president was looking for $1.2 trillion, speaker boehner looking for $800 billion, but you're absolutely right, alex. what republicans are trying to do today is recreate at least some of what they thought the agreement was before, but times have changed. in addition to the fact that it's not at all clear exactly what that
president obama now thinks he has the upper hand. according to the "washington post's" ezra klein, quote -- >> joining us now representative chris van hollen of maryland, ranking member of the house budget committee. great to have you on the program. >> great to be with you, alex. >> let's talk a little bit about 2011 versus 2012, which is to say, the republican party is a very different negotiating position than they were last year and as ezra outlines, it sounds...
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hi think house democrats still pretty good in having president obama being at the table. host: he has agreed in the past to raise the eligibility age for medicare to 67. host: i disagree with it. studies show it does not save money. you have seniors at 65 and 66 who need health care. so the president is flexible. everything he agrees to might not be something i would prefer. host: you would support him in the yen? guest: i would like to, yes. we will back to see what the final deal is. but i am quite confident the way he's handling the situation. host: irene, independent caller in aurora. caller: just a couple comments. democrats, although their policies are things i agree with, i do, but there seems to be a messaging problem. i don't understand -- i have already come to the conclusion that republicans don't feel. but democrats have an issue, as badly as the republicans are picking up on talking points, the democrats picked up on the topic points of the republicans but they don't straighten it out. that confuses people. say for instance entitlements, medicare and social s
hi think house democrats still pretty good in having president obama being at the table. host: he has agreed in the past to raise the eligibility age for medicare to 67. host: i disagree with it. studies show it does not save money. you have seniors at 65 and 66 who need health care. so the president is flexible. everything he agrees to might not be something i would prefer. host: you would support him in the yen? guest: i would like to, yes. we will back to see what the final deal is. but i am...
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dan lothian is at the white house. dan, he is meeting with business leaders, but there is no phone conversation that is taking place, no conversations at all taking place with boehner now. what position is the white house in? how does the president feel this is going? >> you're right about that. the white house continues to insist conversations are ongoing, but i'm hearing from gop aides that, in fact, what we're seeing in the public is exactly what's happening in the private, and that is that it's essentially a standoff. there are no phone conversations, no e-mails, no texting going back and forth, and identify been talking about this. it's very difficult to see how this process moves fashd if -- we see them bringing in business leaders to the white house, ceos, middle class americans, and they're reaching tout these ceos of the business roundtable saying his policies will help businesses. his policies will make it easier to create jobs and that he is rooting for them. at the time he is trying to get behind his positi
dan lothian is at the white house. dan, he is meeting with business leaders, but there is no phone conversation that is taking place, no conversations at all taking place with boehner now. what position is the white house in? how does the president feel this is going? >> you're right about that. the white house continues to insist conversations are ongoing, but i'm hearing from gop aides that, in fact, what we're seeing in the public is exactly what's happening in the private, and that is...
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with the white house and congress on the fiscal cliff. hear the new proposal from congressman paul ryan and senator mark rubio. >> steve: will he work with the liberal media. president obama extends extra special invites for sit down with liberal gabbers. >> brian: he is one of america's favorite coach. his career almost ended early and fans had no idea. the coach revealed something for the very first time. by the way. "fox and friends" starts now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: you must be conflicted today. >> brian: in what way? >> steve: we have coach k on and any time we have peitro, the super model who has been a friend of your manies, many years. >> brian: i am looking forward to nick rangon. >> gretchen: you will have to duke me out for it then. >> brian: you start with him in 10 minutes. >> gretchen: you want to trade coach for nick it will coach you. >> brian: and edrolins to be named later. >> gretchen: and i always like rolins. >> brian: pet up with us. she was a young super model. >> gretchen: does she know she was off y
with the white house and congress on the fiscal cliff. hear the new proposal from congressman paul ryan and senator mark rubio. >> steve: will he work with the liberal media. president obama extends extra special invites for sit down with liberal gabbers. >> brian: he is one of america's favorite coach. his career almost ended early and fans had no idea. the coach revealed something for the very first time. by the way. "fox and friends" starts now. ♪ ♪ "fox and...
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putting forth the petition for the middle class tax cuts in the house. >> like that. >> stephanie: a little something for everybody this morning. here she is, jacki schechner for everybody. in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody! president obama is meeting with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional
putting forth the petition for the middle class tax cuts in the house. >> like that. >> stephanie: a little something for everybody this morning. here she is, jacki schechner for everybody. in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody! president obama is meeting with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention....
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early on, who have yet to get a phone call from the white house in four years. they have not -- these people feel that they just want a little love. and it doesn't cost much. >> andrea, when you say that, people think that i'm just saying that as a republican. i always discount republican criticisms of the president. i always have. i'm talking about the same people you're talking about. >> i know. >> i'm talking about the top democrats in the united states senate that say -- >> he just doesn't like it. >> he doesn't want to talk to us. he doesn't like us. he doesn't want to deal with us. >> when you're in politics and you run for president, that's the problem. and there are some things you've got to do. i'm sure they don't want to stand in receiving lines and greet thousands of people this christmas season, but they do that. >> they do it, yeah. steve, we're not piling this all on the president. you have republicans that haven't wanted to make a deal for a very long time. and i guess the question is, how do you make the deal? do you start by getting -- because b
early on, who have yet to get a phone call from the white house in four years. they have not -- these people feel that they just want a little love. and it doesn't cost much. >> andrea, when you say that, people think that i'm just saying that as a republican. i always discount republican criticisms of the president. i always have. i'm talking about the same people you're talking about. >> i know. >> i'm talking about the top democrats in the united states senate that say --...